Using The Power Of Your Mind To Overcome Loss And Manifest Your Perfect Life With Rod Khleif

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We have Rod Khleif. He is a multiple business owner and philanthropist who is passionate about real estate business and giving back. As one of the country’s top business real estate and peak performance luminaries, he has owned over 2,000 homes and apartment buildings. He’s built over 27 businesses in his career, several of which have been worth tens of millions of dollars.

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Rod, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me. I’m looking forward to this. Let’s have some fun and see if we can add some value.

Your story is wonderfully exciting and inspirational like that background that you got behind you.

Thank you. That’s my backyard. It’s a green screen but I’m blessed to live here in Florida. I love living here. I could be a poster child for the Chamber of Commerce. I’m done with the cold.

With everybody moving there, you’d have an easy job if that’s what you had to do. For the readers who are not familiar with the story, maybe you could catch us up a little and share how you have gotten to this point.

I’m going back a little bit because it’ll tie into stuff we could talk about. I immigrated to this country when I was six years old. I was born in the Netherlands, think wooden shoes and windmills. We immigrated. My brother, Albert, my mother, Svantia and I came over on a big ship. My first memory of the United States was my mom crying when she saw the Statue of Liberty. The second memory was flying on an airplane for the first time to Denver. We lived in Denver for 30 years but when we first got there, we struggled. I remember eating expired food because that’s all we could afford, drinking powdered milk with our cereal in the morning, wearing clothes from the Goodwill and the Salvation Army all the way through junior high school. I was tall and I lied about my age when I was fourteen to get a job at Burger King flipping burgers so I could buy my own clothes.

I’m sure you have readers that had it tougher than we did or even have it tougher now but I knew I wanted more. Luckily, my mom had an incredible work ethic. She babysat kids so we’d have enough money to eat. She was a bit of an entrepreneur. With her babysitting money, she invested in the stock market successfully. She bought real estate. The first house she bought was from a family right across the street from us. When I was 14, she paid $30,000 for this house.

When I was seventeen, she told me she made $20,000 in her sleep. I said, “You didn’t do anything and you made $20,000? Screw college. I’m getting into real estate, Mom.” I went out and got my real estate broker’s license when I turned eighteen. I was going to be rich selling other people houses. I wasn’t just an agent, I was a broker. You could do that with education back then but now you need experience. My first year in real estate, 1978, I made about $8,000 to $10,000. My second year, 1979, I made $10,000 to $12,000 but in 1980, I made over $100,000.

What happened between year 2 and 3 to cause me to 10x it? I met a guy who taught me about the importance of mindset and psychology and how 80 to 90% of your success in anything is that. Only 10% to 20% is the technical knowledge. If it was just knowledge, there’d be a bunch of wealthy librarians and college professors out there. It’s the do and it’s the continue to do. It’s the push through fear. It’s the push through limiting beliefs. It’s the get uncomfortable. A lot of people are in their comfort zones, a warm place but nothing grows there.

Fast forward now, I’ve owned 2,000 houses I’ve rented long-term. I’ve owned thousands of apartment units. I’ve built 27 businesses. When they fail, I don’t call them failures. I call them seminars. Several of them are worth tens of millions of dollars. Most have been spectacular, flaming seminars but we fail our way to success. That’s how life works for an entrepreneur. In 2006, with my real estate, my net worth went up $17 million while I slept. You’re thinking, “That’s impressive,” and so did I. I did the math on that, it’s $8,300 an hour over a 40-hour workweek. I thought I was a freaking real estate god. I had a head so big, I could barely fit it through a door. When that happens, God and the universe will give you a nice little smack. I lost all of that and a lot more. I lost $50 million in 2008.

One of the things that I love talking about is the mindset it took to have $50 million to lose in the first place but more importantly, the mindset it took to recover from that. There were people that jumped off buildings and killed themselves both in the Great Depression and in ’08 and ’09 for losing less. I’m happy to drill down on that mindset with you.

I love it, Rod. The first book my wife gave to me was The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. It talks about mindset, Napoleon Hill, all these things that are important when it comes to shaping these things. I want to go back. Your mom, how did she figure out how to buy that house? Where do you think her mindset came from?

I don’t know if I can answer that question. She was not schooled in business. Her father was a scrappy entrepreneur. In World War II, my grandfather cut off the front of a vehicle because they didn’t have gas. He connected a horse to it and created a taxi to be a taxi cab driver. He ultimately ended up owning a garage after the war. You’ve caused me a question that I’m going to ask her myself. I know she wanted more for us. She wanted to create a great of a lifestyle for us as she possibly could. She ended up buying quite a few houses and then I went crazy with it and ended up buying a lot more. I don’t know, honestly.

Her going from babysitting to buying that first house, that’s a tremendous story.

She invested in the stock market too and made money.

 She had it all figured out.

 It was impressive.

Let’s talk about what helped form your mindset as you went through that?

What I teach my students within the first hour and fifteen minutes of my live events, we do a goal-setting workshop. I call it goal-setting on steroids. I was excited because I’m supposed to have 800 people at a live event in Orlando in May 2020. We all know what happened, it was kind of a fire drill and we had to go virtual. I have thousands of people now in my virtual events. I’m excited because we’re going to have a live event again in December 3rd, 4th and 5th 2020 in Orlando and we’ve already got hundreds of people signed up. The first hour is going to be goal setting. Why? It’s because how do you get anything if you don’t know what it is?

Napoleon Hill calls it a burning desire in his book, Think and Grow Rich. That’s how you determine that burning desire and get in touch with it. You figure out exactly what you want and more importantly, why you want it. It’s the why that’s the real driver. I’m happy to describe that process and give a high-level overview. You can come to the bootcamp. If you ping me on any social media channel, on January 2, 2021, on my Rod Khleif official Facebook page, I did this process where I go through goal setting. I have this free guide you can download. I do it with music. Even if you’re not interested in learning the business, this is a powerful thing you can do with your spouse or your kids to get you juiced and discover that burning desire. If you DM me on any social channel, myself or my team will send you the link so you can watch that and participate if you like.

We’ll make sure that everybody has info on your event coming up in December 2021.

If you’re interested in that, I’d love to give your readers a deal. If you text the word RODINORLANDO to 72345 or go to RodInOrlando.com, it’s a direct link to that page where you can get the tickets. Use the code ROD FRIEND, you can come for $197. This is three full days of training. It’s not a big sales pitch. I talk about my coaching for about 40 minutes. The rest of the time is all content. I’ve never had a complaint other than the room’s too cold or the food wasn’t any good. You got to know what it is you want and why you want it. If you like, I could describe that process. Your readers would enjoy it.

We’re going to be charging into the end of the year. If you’re reading this and you haven’t already formulated and thought about your plan and your psychology for 2022, this is the time to do it. Let’s kick it off with this process.

Here’s what you do. You pick an hour when you have a lot of energy. Make sure you’re well hydrated. Drink some water. Don’t do it right after a meal. Sit down and write down everything you could ever possibly want in life. All the stuff, not just the stuff you want next year but everything for your entire lifetime. All the big things, the little things, the houses, cars, boats, jet-skis, planes, jewelry, clothing, watches. Write down how much money you want to make from your investments and cash flow, what your number is in 3 years then again in 10 years. Write down how much cash you want in the bank in 3 years and in 10 years.

Write down also everything you want to do in this lifetime. I have a vision board behind my green screen. It’s my travel vision board, the places I want to go or places I’ve been that I want to go again. Write down all the places you want to go. If you want to write a book, write that down. I have a friend that’s climbing every mountain over 14,000 feet. Whatever it is, everything you want to do as well. I jumped out of a perfectly good airplane a couple of years ago. I’ll never do it again but it’s off the list. It’s done.

Write down also what you want to learn in this lifetime if you want to learn a foreign language or a skill. If it’s multifamily, come see me but whatever it is, write that down that you want to learn because you never stop learning. Don’t think that if you’re done with college, you’re done learning. That’s when learning starts. Learners are earners.

Lastly, write down who you want to help. We’ll do more for others than we’ll ever do for ourselves. This is the fuel to get you to take action. It’s never about these things. They will propel you and create that burning desire to take action. By the way, take the lid off your brain. Imagine if you write it down, you’re going to get it. Don’t limit yourself. I don’t care if you want a private island, a jet, a yacht, write it down. There is truly nothing you cannot do, be or have. You just have to decide and take action.

I remember when I was eighteen, I wanted to live on a beach. There’s no beach in Denver but I would visualize the palm trees, the sand, the surf and the waves. Several years later, I built this $8 million, 10,000-square foot house on the beach here in Sarasota, which is unthinkable when I was eighteen. I’m not trying to brag. I just want to tell you, don’t limit yourself. If you can imagine it, write it down. Once you can’t think of another thing, pick your number one goal, that goal which you know you’ve arrived at when you achieve that goal. If there’s more than one, just pick one for what we’re going to do next.

Pick that mind-blowing goal then pick your top three one-year goals. Put these on a separate sheet of paper. If you ping me on social, I’ll give you this guide and you can do it on there but you can use a piece of paper for this but leave room in between the goals. Once you have your number one goal and your top three one-year goals, you’re ahead of 99.9% of the people on the planet that do a New Year’s resolution that’s forgotten by February.

There are a couple more important steps. I now want you to write down why those goals are an absolute must to achieve. Underneath each one, put right why it has to happen and use emotionally charged words like beautiful, amazing, incredible and wonderful. Words are very powerful. You might say, “I can show my kids what amazing abundance looks like. I can show my wife what it means to live a life of complete freedom. We can have the freedom to do whatever, whenever, wherever and bring whoever we want.”

Whatever it is going to juice you, write that down. You might have some redundancy between the goals. There might be similar reasons why but it’s the why that’s going to juice you and get your butt up early in the morning to stay up late, to work Saturdays, to grind for a few years like most people won’t so you’ll live the rest of your life like most people can’t. The whys are critical. Once you have your positive reasons why, I’m going to put a little pain in there. I want you to make it painful if you don’t achieve the goal. Write that down and make it hurt. “I don’t feel like a failure. I don’t fail my kids. I don’t live a life of regret.” Put that down for these goals if you don’t achieve them.

I’ll speak to this regret. There was this hospice nurse in Australia named Bronnie Ware. She took care of patients when they were about to die and she asked them a question, “Do you have any regrets?” She wrote a book about it called The Top Five Regrets of the Dying. Do you know what the number one regret was? Not living the life, I could have lived. Living someone else’s life. Not doing what I know I’m capable of. I can’t think of anything worse than that. Don’t fear failure. We fail our way to success. Fear regret.

I met the billionaire owner of Spanx at a mastermind that I was in, Sara Blakely. She is amazing. She started with $5,000 and now she’s a multi-billionaire. She told me that her dad used to ask her and her brother once a week on average, “What have you failed at this week?” What an incredible question to ask your kids so they don’t fear failure. You’ve written down your positive and negative reasons why, the last thing you must do is get pictures of your goals or make declarations. Jim Carrey, when he was flat broke, he wrote himself a check for $10 million. He’d go up by the Hollywood sign and he’d look at it and visualize cashing it. That’s how much money he made for Dumb and Dumber.

A more recent example, Demi Lovato. When she was unknown several years ago posted on social media, “One day I’m going to sing the national anthem at the Super Bowl.” Go watch Super Bowl and she was singing the national anthem. I’ll give you some personal examples for me. When I was eighteen, I got my real estate broker’s license and I was going to be rich selling other people houses but I figured I had to have a four-door car. I got this bone ugly Ford Granada, bench seat in the front, a real piece of crap.

I went and worked with a guy who taught me about mindset. He had a couple of Corvettes and he let me drive one. I’m like, “This is incredible.” This was before the internet. I got a magazine, got a picture of a Corvette and put it on the visor of that bone ugly Granada. Every time I sat in the car it was right there in my face. Within a year or two, I had a beautiful Corvette that I bought. I want to pre-frame this by saying I’m not bragging. I want to inspire you to what’s possible. This was back when the TV show Magnum P.I. was out. The actor’s name was Tom Selleck. It was the first time I saw an exotic car. He drove this Ferrari 308. I got a picture of that actual car, put it on the visor of my Corvette, within a year or two I had a Maserati that looked just like it.

The last example, I’m the guy that always wanted a Lamborghini. I had the posters in my room growing up. It was a Countach back then. This was the one Mike Tyson bought for him and his wife, they were married for a week. What’s interesting is my son collected models of exotic cars. He had about 30 or 40 Ferraris and McLarens.

My younger son is the same way.

He had a model of the exact same color and style Lamborghini that I ended up getting, which I ultimately wrecked. Get pictures. Let me show you my planner. In the back of this thing, I have pictures that have been in here for several years. The first pictures are my gratitude pictures. My kids are grown up, but these are when they were young. Everything starts from a place of gratitude. That’s how you manage. Those of you who are analytical going, “Let’s talk real estate.” This is more important. This is how I had $50 million to lose and got back to what I have now. It starts with gratitude.

I have pictures of the stuff that I wanted. This top picture looks like the house I built on the beach. I had a 10-foot-high glass like that, travertine floors. This was before I ever built it. What’s crazy is I lost that house in all the craziness when I lost everything. Now we live in a compound. I have six buildings. I have a big main house and two-bedroom guesthouses on the water as well. I have a media building with a video studio on top, a theater room, a beautiful exercise facility. It’s spectacular.

God has a sense of humor. I can see my old house across the bay. On the bottom, you’ll see the white concrete wall in both those pictures. That’s my backyard. I just noticed that not long ago. These pictures are several years old and it’s the same wall in my backyard that I had in these pictures. I have stupid crap like watches. I have a few hundred thousand dollars’ worth of watches now.

The Lamborghini before I ever bought it, the Rolls-Royce, the Bentley, all the stuff that I got because I had pictures. This stuff may not interest you but use pictures of what interests you. This doesn’t even interest me anymore but it’s great for illustrative purposes. Get those pictures, get them around you, screensaver on the walls, vision boards. I have vision boards on the floor here behind my green screen for the things that I want now. Get them because they work.

That’s amazing. I went through this process. Tony Robbins had a similar thing in one of his courses that my wife and I did back in the early 2000s. It’s so powerful. I became a believer because we moved into our dream house my wife and I built. I unpacked that journal back there and I’m flipping through it. I’m not a car guy but around my 40th birthday, I ended up buying a BMW M5. It never dawned on me that I wanted it but it happened to me.

That’s a midlife time. You buy a Harley or a sports car.

Here’s what’s crazy. I didn’t think in my past I wanted one. I opened that journal up and it said in there, by the time I was 40, I would have a BMW M5. I also saw the money, the real estate, all that stuff but also the other things, the family, the trips, the ability to do all those things. If you’re like me, you have an engineering mind and you think, “This is crazy. You’ve been in Asheville too long. I don’t what you and Rod are smoking.” Believe me, this stuff works. It begins with mindset. Rod, you had a mentor that taught you these things. You get to the point of $50 million in real estate then 2008 happens. You go back to zero, essentially.

Less than zero because I owed money.

Where was your mind then? How did you maintain that resiliency to get back?

It was ugly. I hid under a rock for a few months. What’s sad is because I was so caught up in fear, I didn’t capitalize on that incredible opportunity. The market is frothing right now with the administration’s policies with 1031 exchanges and capital gains and throwing trillions of dollars into the economy. We’re going to see inflation, which helps our business but we’re going to have a contraction. It’s inevitable. Real estate goes through cycles. I’ve been through several of these cycles now. I was caught up in fear so I didn’t capitalize on that incredible opportunity. Now, I am in cash and I’m ready. Instead of getting crushed by that wave, I’m going to surf that damn thing this time.

I was in pain and feeling sorry for myself. I got caught up in my story, “Woe is me. I lost $50 million.” It’s easy to get caught up in a story. You need to be very careful that you don’t allow yourself, if it’s negative and disempowering, to get caught up in a story, “I’m too old. I’m too young. I’m too analytical. I’m not strong enough. I’m not influential enough. I don’t have enough money.” Don’t get caught up in those disempowering stories. It’s easy to do that as a human being. Luckily, I was in a mastermind. It was in Tony Robbins’ Platinum Partnership. I was around people that were thriving in that. They’re like, “Get up you whiny baby. Go make something happen.”

Peer group is so incredible. Show me your three best friends, I’ll show you who you are. You’re going to be like they are in your happiness level, your fitness level, your health level and your financial level. I was in a good peer group. Since then, I’ve set up my own mastermind and I have $14 billion in assets in this thing. It’s the largest one there is for multifamily. The point is you want to be around people that think what you think is hard as easy and people that are not suffering. Luckily, I was in that group that helped a lot. What the big thing was I managed my focus.

As human beings, we connect through negativity. If you came up to me, Chris and said, “How are you doing?” I was like, “I’m freaking awesome. I’m fantastic.” You might step back or you might not because you’re evolved. Would you mind stepping back and saying, “He’s off his meds.” If you came up and said, “How you doing?” I’m like, “I got my butt kicked on this deal. My back hurts.” You put your arm around me and say, “I feel your brother. How can I help you?” We connect that way. You got to be careful of that. If you’re reading this, you’re a leader, no question. The world needs leaders. It’s so critical to pay attention to what you’re focused on.

Don’t get me caught up on the fricking fake news of politics. Whatever you focus on is going to get larger, both positive and negative so bring in the good stuff. My podcast, I’m blessed to say we’re well over eleven million downloads. Part of that reason is that I do these Own Your Power clips. They’re motivational clips. They’re only five minutes. I have hundreds of them. Bring in that stuff. Listen to my podcast called The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing or go on YouTube and watch those motivational clips of soldiers when they’re coming home. Bring in the good stuff, not that negative crap because again, whatever you focus on gets larger, positive or negative. Here’s a personal example of this.

I get people call me and say, “How do I get out of student loan debt?” I’m like, “Wrong question. How do you make so much money in student loan debt is inconsequential.” They asked mother Teresa when she was alive if she was anti-war. She said, “I’m pro-peace.” Focus is freaking important. I managed my focus. I focused on what I wanted. I reassociated with what I wanted. I did the goal-setting consistently and got pictures of what I wanted and all the things that I knew how to do that I had done. I didn’t even realize. I did it subconsciously. When that movie The Secret came out and they talked about the Law of Attraction, I’m like, “That’s what I’ve been doing for decades. I didn’t even know it.”

didn’t even know that’s what I was doing. I gave away literally a few thousand copies of that DVD. I bought a bunch and gave them away because it was so powerful. The one caveat with that is you have to take action. You can’t just sit there in your car and wish for the stuff but wishing for it and bringing it into your life works. You got to take action. You got to push through fear. I know you probably have a lot of analytical readers, Chris. I know you’re pretty analytical. The most successful people in the multifamily business are analytical and they’re the hardest to get to take that first step.

They have to check off every box and get caught up in analysis paralysis. If that’s you, take that first step. In our business, it’s the law of the first deal. It’s the scariest and hardest. I see with my coaching students all the time, they don’t do a deal for 6 months, 8 months, even a year sometimes. They’re scared out and stressful. It takes the hardest but then once it’s done, the next thing they know they have five. I’m like, “What the hell happened? You got 5, 6 deals now.”

It’s because they pushed through that and took action and made it happen. Let me brag. I’ve been teaching for about three and a half years. My students now own over 46,000 units that I know of. I’m super proud of that. This is my direct coaching students that aren’t even the bootcamp. Thousands of people come to my boot camps. It redirected my focus. That’s how I got past this. Reassociating with what I wanted, not what I lost. That’s how I did it.

I love it. You said a couple of things in there that I want to underline, underscore, repeat. The first thing, you open your plan or gratitude, start from a place of gratitude. Get a clear vision of what you specifically want going forward. Focus on that and then take massive action. The thing I want to end with is some of the things that you talk about in your interviews on your website. What you now do that’s different specifically with the Tiny Hands Foundation, giving back. A couple of the things you said touched on this, how these things don’t matter that much to you anymore. Let’s talk about what does and what you’re focused on your goals?

Thank you for that opportunity because that prompted me to remember something that ties into goals. You said gratitude. I have a gratitude vision board behind me. What I do is I’ll sit in that recliner behind this green screen. I have my vision boards and I’ll sit there and I’ll do gratitude for my amazing, beautiful wife. She’s spectacularly, physically beautiful but she’s also beautiful on the inside. My coaching students, my kids, my foundation, not just to gratitude but for a few minutes but then I’ll do gratitude for the things that I want as if I already have them. I know some of you are going, “For God’s sakes, talk real estate, please.” No. This is how you get the stuff, guys. I’ll even get emotional sometimes, being grateful for things I don’t even have yet because it works.

I’ll look at those vision boards so I get a more crystal-clear picture of what I want because that clarity is important. Clarity is power. I want to talk about an epiphany that I had. I’m glad you reminded me of this because it ties into goals. I was talking about that house I built on the beach. This house was spectacular. Let me describe it a little bit more. It was 10,000 square feet. I own the beach on one side. I had my boat houses on the backside. It was Gulf to Bay, a slice through the island. I had a wine cellar elevator, giant waterfall from the second-floor balcony into the pool. You had to walk through the waterfall to get to the pool. The pool is in magazines.

Giant spiral staircase up to the middle of the house. On the second floor, I had aquariums that I had built that cost me almost $200,000. That gives you an idea of the house. I worked for this thing for twenty years. Two months after I moved in, I’m floating in a pool at night, my family’s inside sleeping. I’m looking up at this testament to my ego. The pool is changing colors. It’s got fiber optic lighting but I’m calling it a testament to my ego because that’s what it was. It was to prove to the world that I was good enough. It’s embarrassing to admit that but that’s the truth of it. I’m looking up at this thing and I got depressed. I don’t mean a little bummed.

I was really bummed. I’m like, “What the hell is going on? I’ve achieved success times 1,000.” I had the cars in the garage, boats, jet skis, this magnificent home and I was bummed. When I looked back on it, there were several things going on. One was, don’t achieve a big goal without the other goals lined up behind it. You need a vision for your future. Like the good book says, “Without a vision, the people perish.” I didn’t know what I was going to do next. That’s one big thing. The next thing was, it’s never about the goals. They have that saying, “The best days of a boat owner’s life are the day they buy it and the day they sell it.” It’s never about the goals.

It’s about who you become on the path to the goals. Happiness comes from progress and growth. It never comes from the goal. The goal feels good for a day or two but then it’s gone. I worked for the thing for twenty years. Two months later, I’m depressed. Happiness comes from progress and growth. I didn’t know what I was going to do next to progress or grow. The big thing was, I’d been totally focused on me. Show the world I’m good enough and I matter. Rod, Rod, Rod. I went out and bought a bunch of books. I bought Napoleon Hill, Dale Carnegie and a Tony Robbins book. I started reading Tony and his book and I’m like, “This is good stuff.”

I went and saw him live. This is years ago and I saw that he fed families for the holidays. I know you know about this because you’ve been in his environment. I was like, “What a concept. Do something for someone else.” I decided to go back and feed some families. I was going to Thanksgiving in Denver with my brother. I called him, I said, “Let’s feed five families.” We went to his church and said, “Who needs help?” They gave us five families. The third family changed my life. We go up to this place and we have toys for the kids, frozen turkey and baskets full of food.

She comes out, she sees the food. She starts crying. Her kids come out. The older ones start crying. I start crying and I’m fricking hooked. I’m blessed to say, in the last several years, we’ve fed over 100,000 kids for the holidays here in Sarasota, Bradenton and Tampa. We’ve done tens of thousands of backpacks filled with school supplies. Don’t get me started on the fact that we live in the greatest country on Earth and kids don’t even have school supplies. I’ve done tens of thousands of teddy bears for local police officers to keep in their vehicles to give to children that they encounter that are traumatized. I’m not saying this to brag either. What I am saying about this is that you may be reading this and you may be thinking, “I’ll do that when I have the money.”

Big mistake. Do it right now. Find a cause that you’re interested in. I don’t care if it’s kids, the elderly, the environment, animals, whatever it is that you’re passionate about and do something. Why? We’ve been taught to achieve to be happy. When you are giving back, you are happily achieving. That’s not a play on words, that’s reality. Frankly, even if you haven’t got a what the pin right now, give back even if it’s just your time. Why? You’re going to get the success faster. You don’t do it for that reason but that’s the byproduct. What you give, you get back a hundred-fold, a thousand-fold. Give back.

I love it. Rod, you’ve been so generous with your time and with your experiences. I couldn’t agree more. If you’re saying, “I thought this was going to be a real estate conversation,” there’s plenty more where that came from but begin with mindset. If people want to find you in Orlando, when is your event coming up?

Thank you. It’s December 3, 4 and 5 2021. It’s not a sales pitch. Bring you’re A-game because it’s drinking through a fire hose. If you’re serious about real estate being the vehicle for you, you don’t want to miss this. It’s in RodInOrlando.com or text RODINORLANDO to 72345 and use the code ROD FRIEND. You come for $197. I believe in the adage of adding as much value and adding value until it hurts. It has served me very well. If you go to that website, you’ll see the hundreds of testimonials on the bottom, unsolicited, people that rave about it. I spend time on mindset too.

I want you to take action with what you learn. It’s not just the goal setting. You’ll do your identity statement because your identity pulls you into it. You’ll do a lot of other things to push through fear. People cry, they laugh. It’s a lot of fun and you’ll learn. You won’t get tired. It is fricking awesome. If you want to learn a little bit more about me, go to RealEstateWithRod.com, that’s a direct link to my website. I have lots of free resources, books and videos and articles on my website. If you want to poke around in this business, you’ll get a lot of free resources there.

Your website is amazing like this interview. Check out Rod at the beginning of December 2021, down in sunny Florida. If you can’t feel the enthusiasm he has, go and feel it face to face with him. Rod, thank you so much for sharing all your tips, tricks and your story with our readers.

Thank you. It was great to meet you. I appreciate you having me on.

It’s been a blast.

Important Links:

• NextLevelIncome.com

• Book link – NextLevelIncome.com

• Invest link – NextLevelIncome.com

• Rod Khleif

• The Alchemist

• Think and Grow Rich

• Rod Khleif – Facebook

• RodInOrlando.com

• The Top Five Regrets of the Dying

• The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing – Podcast

• RealEstateWithRod.com

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